I'm hearing murder.
They appreciate when horrible things happen.
I know there's something very evil in this house.
I don't know if they're tricksters
or some kind of demon.
I feel like I'm losing my mind.
I'm feeling panic and fear.
I hate this place -- hate it.
This seems like a possession.
My name is Amy Allan.
Everything was built on blood.
I see dead people.
Very disturbing.
I speak to dead people.
There's victims around him. Ow.
And they speak to me.
Her voice sounds like death.
But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.
The living don't stand a chance here.
I rely on my partner.
I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.
You could have got killed.
And I know every person, every house has secrets.
This is coming straight from Hell.
It's my job to reveal them.
Your mom was murdered right here in this room?
Yes, she was.
But Steve and I never speak...
We never communicate during an investigation.
...until the very end...
This was just the beginning.
...when we uncover if it's safe for you to stay...
Oh, my God.
...or time to get out.
They're very bad.
This house is going to kill me.
I'm in the small town of Applegate, California,
about an hour north of Sacramento.
I got a call from a desperate woman
who just beat lung cancer
but doesn't think she can survive her own home.
She says, unless Amy and I can help her out,
she doesn't think she's gonna make it.
Before Amy arrives, I clear the area of any leading information.
Personal items, family photographs,
and even dream catchers have to be covered or removed.
When I'm finished, the location
will be ready for tonight's walk.
Oh, boy.
I see this, like, super tall guy with, like, red eyes,
and he's standing in the shadows.
All of a sudden, two little, like,
gargoyles with red eyes run out from him.
They're pretty close to the ground.
They're about this tall but with super long arms.
They have, like, no hair on them,
and I'm gonna say there's a lot of issues with this land.
It's not good.
You know, Heidi, one of the reasons
that I took this case is you told me,
after beating cancer,
you feel like you're fighting for your life
all over again. Is it really that bad?
It's really bad.
I'm scared.
That's insane.
It is insane.
So, how long you been living in the house?
It's my sister's house.
I've been living here for about 31/2 years,
and then I lived here before in the late '90s.
Did you have activity then?
Yes, it was horrendous.
Why'd you come back?
With cancer, it financially tore me apart.
So, you beat the most treacherous thing
anybody can go through -- is cancer.
Yeah. And my daughter had an emotional breakdown.
They won't stop, and I am very angry.
That's why we needed you here to help us.
It seems it's a lot worse than I thought originally.
Well, who actually lives in the house now?
That's me, of course. Right.
That's my sister, Petra, who owns the house.
That's my daughter, Sasha, who's 22.
Okay.
And that is Ciara, who's 15. Okay.
All of us are lashing out at one another.
The negativity, you feel it when you walk in this house.
It feels like something you can cut with a knife.
So, Heidi, give me a rundown of what's going on in the house.
Noises, the apparitions, they rush you.
They charge you, and being pushed, shoved, pinching.
Is anybody getting more harassment, I should say,
from the paranormal here than anybody else?
Me and Sasha.
She feels like she can't leave the house.
She can't function.
She's scared to death.
I am mama bear to my girls,
and I protected them all their lives so far,
and I will continue to do so.
I'm just trying to keep it together for my children
because they need me,
and I can't give up, and I won't give up.
I'm glad I took this case.
It's heartbreaking to hear you talk.
I want it to stop now.
I want them out of here.
So, what do you think is here?
I'm not sure, but I know
there's something very evil in this house.
Okay.
I don't know why, but my grandfather is very freaked out.
My grandfather is one of my guides,
and he tags along usually when it might be a little funky.
Ooh, it must be not good here, at least for sensitives.
I'm assuming that there would be some kind of physical threat
that he's extremely worried about.
Okay, so, what's going on out here?
You know, sometimes, I come out here in the morning
when I have to go to work, and there's growling.
Not for nothing, but we're in the middle of the woods.
What kind of growling are we talking about?
Growling that I've never heard before.
It's not distinctive.
It doesn't sound like a coyote, a wolf.
Now, is there any way
you could describe what that sounds like?
A sound that goes into a growl
and then almost sounds like a human at the end,
something in agony.
Now, have you ever had the house
checked for rodents or anything like that?
No. Okay, anything else?
I keep getting rushed by shadows.
What do you mean by rushed?
They run at you, and they run through you.
And how does that feel when it goes through you?
You get nauseated, feel like you want to vomit.
It feels like a cold force just went through you.
Okay, what else is going on?
I had an occasion where I was getting ready for work.
I went out the door, went down the steps,
immediately got shoved, and my knees were cut up,
and I was bleeding, and I was crying.
Can you feel actual hands on you or --
Yes. Okay, demonstrate on me how hard you got shoved.
Okay, so, you got a nice jolt.
Oh, yeah. It just felt like boom.
So, this is... pretty serious.
Pretty serious -- very.
Because even a short fall can cause major damage
or even kill you, and I've seen it.
They try to hurt me.
The little gargoyle-y things,
one of the things they like to do
is, like, tripping people,
also scaring people,
like, jumping out of dark spaces.
And I think they're outside.
I think they're inside.
And it's almost like they're jumping out of closets,
and people are freaking out.
Those little gargoyle thingies, I feel like they come
and go in this room in particular.
I don't know why.
How do these things interact with the living?
They can, like, trip people.
They rush them.
I don't like this room at all.
So, Heidi, this is like a dorm room.
I've never seen a setup like this.
I mean, there's three beds in here. What gives?
This is the way we choose to live to keep my children safe.
It keeps them feeling better that Mom's right here.
All right, so, what's going on in here?
I actually get scratched, and I'm in bed,
and you'll feel someone just scratch me.
Cats?
No. The scratching, it feels like human hands,
like, just marks going down.
It sure sounds like something
doesn't want you to get some sleep.
Exactly. "Let's keep bothering her.
Let's keep harassing her."
Okay, anything else?
I see black spirits all along the walls here
where they just stare at you.
So, like a shadow person?
Just like a shadow person, yes.
They just stand and look at us, no expression.
That's no way to live.
No, it's not.
We would like to see this house be a home again.
Why are they here? What do they want?
Why are they hurting us?
It's the house.
It's what's in the house.
So, the little gargoyles, they're, like,
coming and going in here, coming and going,
coming and going. They like it.
Do you know why they're attracted to this room?
They're attracted to negative energy, bad energy.
They like it. They love it.
Terrible!
I'm gonna say that there was a murder,
and I'm gonna say that I think
that these things would like it if another one happened.
I'm hearing murder.
I'm just hearing murder.
All right, Ciara, how old are you?
15.
Now, your mother mentioned about being at each other's throats.
Yeah. What's going on?
We have been, like, so mean towards each other
that we would normally not act towards each other.
Everything's heightened.
Everything is so just, like, evil, I feel like.
You think it's because of the stress,
or you think it's whatever's here's
influencing you guys?
Whatever here is influencing us.
As far as experiences go, have you had any?
Several. Okay.
A couple weeks ago, I woke up,
and there was a bruise on my arm.
I had no idea where it came from, and it hurt really bad.
Now, this is a pretty precise location on your arm.
Did you bang it on anything maybe while you were sleeping?
Not that I remember.
Okay, anything else?
When we first moved in, every night,
a shadow with red eyes would be staring at me
as I fell asleep.
Now, did you see this outside, or was it in the room?
It was outside the window.
Did it have a shape?
It was just a mist with just red eyes
just staring at me.
I was just so scared
it would come attack me or something.
How would you feel about leaving?
Personally, I would like to leave.
This house has traumatized me.
That tall guy with the red guys who the gargoyles run out of,
I think people see him.
Can you describe what they see?
I think, to them, it looks more like a ball,
like a black ball.
I feel like they see the red eyes.
One of them scales the tree.
He's watching. He's interested.
Now, Sasha, how old are you?
I'm 22. You're 22.
But you're living in a room with your mom
and your younger sister. Yeah.
Not cool, right?
No, it's not.
Mom mentioned you're having some issues emotionally --
depression, stuff like that. Yeah.
Do you think it's because of what's going on in the house?
I feel like the house is making it worse.
Everyone's been more...tense
and at each other's throats lately.
Can you tell me about some experiences you had?
I was downstairs taking a shower,
and I hear this voice in my head
in some language I've never heard before,
and it's just chanting.
The next thing I remember was waking up in my mom's arms
outside of the shower.
She said that I had started speaking
in a very strange language that she had never heard,
which I had assumed was the language
that I was hearing in my head. Okay.
And she said that I charged out of the bathtub
and tried to choke her.
What do you think happened?
I don't know.
How do you explain something like that?
Okay, anything else?
Well, this was my bed,
so I'd wake up in the middle of the night,
and I'd just see the shadow man standing over me.
How often has this happened?
At very least, once a week,
but I always feel his presence there.
I feel like he wants to hurt me.
I feel like I'm in danger.
Okay, anything else?
At night, my bed gets shoved so hard that it wakes me up.
Okay, can you show me how hard that shake is?
Yeah.
Okay, so, if you're sleeping,
you're getting up from that. Yeah.
All right.
What would you like to see happen, sweetie?
If I had it my way, I'd be gone, and I'd never look back.
It's kind of hard to remain in some place
that's hurt you so much.
Ugh.
I don't know what the [bleep] is going on in here,
but it is not good.
So, the little gargoyles, they're, like,
jumping all over the place. They're laughing.
I mean, they absolutely love it.
I mean, they're jumping up and down on the beds,
and I'm gonna say that I do think
that the living are pretty damn well aware of these things.
I think they're feeling, you know,
they're definitely feeling the [bleep] pressure
on the bed and [bleep] Yeah.
They're [bleep] with the living.
Do you know what these are?
I don't know yet. They were never alive.
I don't know if they're tricksters
or some kind of demon.
This is your house. Mm-hmm.
Now, your sister moved in about 31/2 years ago,
and you did the right thing.
You made her come in
when she was going through a tough time.
You got to be worried about her.
Very worried.
As far as experiences go, have you had any?
Yes. I felt someone actually grab my ankle
and just jerk my foot down.
So, now are you sure this wasn't some kind of
a sleep paralysis thing?
I'm sure it wasn't.
It has never happened before and never happened again.
You sound like you're really tense about it
right now talking about it.
Yeah, it was very scary.
My heart was pounding for, I'm sure, hours after that.
I don't think I would have -- I think I would have ran.
Okay. Did anything else happen?
Yes. I had one other experience
that was just the worst one, you know.
What happened?
I was basically pinned down in bed.
I felt like there were two hands on my shoulders
literally holding me down in bed,
and I woke up gasping.
What'd you do?
I started to call out.
I told it to leave me alone, and I was always told, you know,
"Say, 'In the name of Jesus Christ, leave me,'"
you know, things like that because it was --
I don't know how long it was.
And finally, I just feel it lift like it
just took its hands off me and left me alone.
Okay.
It's okay. You all right?
Come here. I'm okay. Thanks.
Aww, I'm sorry.
It's okay.
This person, I feel, is, like, a sensitive.
Something's trying to talk to her.
She's getting physically injured.
So, I'm seeing there's, like, a woman in here.
Is this the person you were describing
in the bedroom as a sensitive?
I think so.
I'm getting frustration, frustrations.
Stuff is moving, something with pots and pans.
I think this living woman with abilities is creating a P.K.
P.K. manifestations are extremely powerful
because they can cause things to move on their own.
So, is it just the pots and pans?
No! Mnh-mnh.
She has issues with herself.
She has some kind of guilt complex.
She thinks that somebody's, like,
hitting her or strangling her, but actually,
she is manifesting enough energy into,
like, a physical manifestation and then attacking herself.
It's pretty advanced.
I don't like it in here.
It's terrible! Terrible!
Amy and I have done investigations up here before,
so my first call was to an old friend,
Chris Enss, an historical author.
Now, she did some digging for me,
and it turns out one of the very first owners
of the property was involved in an epic family feud
I'm definitely going to want to know about.
So, Chris, it's good to see you again.
Before we get to this big family feud, who are the players?
The players in this situation are Jefferson Wilcoxson
and his brother, Jackson,
and here's a picture of Jefferson here.
In 1849, the brothers left Missouri
and came out west looking for gold.
The brothers did not find gold,
but they made a fortune selling supplies
to the other 49ers, and they made a lot of money.
How did they wind up on my client's property?
Jackson had a lot of property, and when he passed away,
he willed the property to Jefferson,
and so that's how Jefferson
is now in charge of that land.
So, Chris, is this land transfer part of the feud?
No, it involves Jefferson and his niece, Amanda.
Right. So, how'd she wind up in the picture?
Well, Jefferson is sick, and he needs someone
to take care of him, so he does send for his niece.
She's quick to come west.
How old is Amanda at this point?
She's 19 years old.
For the next 20 years, she gives up her life to devote to him.
She bathes him. She takes care of his finances.
She promises even not to marry.
He promises that he's going to be giving her $150,000
when he passes away.
When did things go bad?
When Jefferson dies, he has left a lot of funds
to his family members, but nothing to Amanda.
Well, Chris, it sounds like she got screwed.
Did she contest the will at all? What happened?
She does. She hires attorneys to go in and fight this will.
So, she went to trial. How did it go?
What they give her is $18,000, which they estimate is her worth
for all of those years of taking care of her uncle.
Sounds like she gave up her life for him
and got practically nothing in return.
Well, yes, she had suitors who wanted to marry her,
and she had to call it off.
She gave up men that might have been the people
that loved her for the rest of her life.
So, the little gargoyles are pissing off the living,
and the living are getting pissed at one another.
What they're doing to the living is, like, irritating them.
The gargoyle-y things really want the living
to turn on one another.
They appreciate when horrible things happen,
and if they can nudge it along,
it's what's causing a lot of the agitation.
Do you have any idea
how long these things have been here?
Forever. Is it just this house?
No. Where else?
Oh, around, you know, pretty far, yeah.
I think that they like it, you know,
when murders and [bleep] happen.
Everyone in the house is complaining
about growling and footsteps.
Of course, they're convinced it's paranormal.
Call me crazy. It could just be rodents.
I'm driving up to the house now
to meet with a pest-control expert
who's gonna give the place a complete once-over.
All right, guys, so, this is the deal,
why I called you out here.
My clients that live in this house are complaining
about growling and noises and knocks and stuff like that.
Call me nutty, but we're out in the middle of the woods here,
so I'm thinking it could be
some kind of a rodent or an animal.
You guys get anything like that out here?
Yeah, definitely.
Banging noises and stuff could be a rodent. Okay.
Could be a large rat running around.
All right, so, do me a favor -- Go in there,
do the best you can, the entire house,
and let me know what you find.
All right, sounds good.
With all the bizarre sounds Heidi and her family
are hearing, I know I have to rule out the obvious first,
and if there isn't a physical explanation,
our only hopes for answers will have to come from Amy.
Okay, guys, so, how'd it go?
My inspection on the lower basement area down there,
all I found was a light infestation of mice.
Mice. All right.
Could that cause those noises they're hearing? No.
All right, so, nothing you guys found
would cause any kind of sound
that would sound like growling, scratching, knocking?
No.
All right, so, I know the problem's
not nature and their surroundings.
Correct.
So, the little gargoyles, I hear them down here playing.
The living are pretty freaked out.
Whoever stays in here probably hearing those
little guys causing a ruckus.
They're talking, but it's not a language
that anybody would understand.
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So far, I've got a family under attack on a property
where a nasty family feud took place,
but I want to see if there's anything else
that could help my investigation.
Searching through old records, I find an unsolved murder
that took place in 1973.
Turns out the homicide happened
right next to my client's property.
Now, this case is still open, so the local cops
don't want to talk to me about this murder.
But I've managed to track down a P.I.
who says the victim belonged to a strange cult
and that they set up shop
right next to Heidi and Petra's house.
Well, Larry, thanks for meeting me.
I really appreciate that.
Before we get to the unsolved homicide,
what's the story with this cult?
It was called the Esoteric Fraternity.
The cult originally started in New York.
The founder was a guy, a Civil War veteran
and an author named Hiram Butler.
Mr. Butler wrote a book in the late 1880s
called "Solar Biology."
"Solar Biology" ended up being the bible, if you would,
for the fraternity.
It spouts immortality through celibacy.
All right, so, people bought into this crap?
They did, and this drew the ire of the authorities
in both New York and Boston,
and I have an article here from the Boston Herald.
Why'd they go after him?
Mr. Butler purified the women members of the fraternity
by having sex with them,
and that didn't set too well.
Okay.
So, this guy was full of [bleep], basically. Right.
How or when does he wind up
right next to my client's property?
Records indicate that, in 1891, he purchased the 500 acres
next to your client's property.
He built a four-story building,
and he called it the Esoteric College.
So, how long does this guy, Butler, stick around?
He stayed on the property until 1916.
At the time of his death, he was 75.
By all accounts, his followers were quite disappointed
that he did not achieve immortality.
Right. So much for that.
There's a bad man out here.
Mnh. Mnh.
I don't like it over there. Mnh-mnh. Mnh-mnh.
No. No.
I'm repulsed.
I feel like my stomach drops in here.
There's a lot of domestic violence in here.
I'm feeling panic and fear.
Got to calm it down. Got to calm it down.
Panic.
So, Larry, I know the homicide happened back in '73,
and the cult was still going on back then, correct?
Yes, it was. The cult was still there,
although there were only four members left.
Okay, so, what do we know about the victim?
Victim's name was Matthew Bosek.
He was a Russian immigrant.
He was said to be a mild-mannered man.
He had lived on the property
and been a member of the cult for over 50 years.
Well, how's the circumstances of his death? What happened?
Well, on the night of August 2nd, 1973,
they found Mr. Bosek in the fetal position
laying on his right side in a pool of blood.
He had three shots in the back and one in the back of the head.
So, it sounds like we got a execution-style homicide.
Certainly fits common idea
of an execution-style killing, yes.
All right, was there any indication of a robbery?
None.
Okay, so, there's only three people left on this property.
I assume the cops talked to them.
They did interview the people as well
as some of the adjacent property owners.
Nobody came up with anything.
And it's still open to this day. It is.
It seems like somebody got away with murder.
I'm seeing two men, and I'm seeing the word murder.
I'm seeing, like, a red t-shirt.
So, this may be 1980s.
So, I'm getting two men, but then I'm hearing a female.
Maybe there's, like, some kind of domestic [bleep]
going on here.
I'm hearing a -- I think it's a shotgun.
I'm hearing, like, an explosion.
Feel like I'm being hit, and, like, the head pain from --
Dude, major head trauma going on.
I saw several disturbing things on my walk,
but the gargoyles terrorizing the living
have me the most concerned.
These things are on the bed.
To me, they looked frightening.
They had red eyes, and they were, like,
very, very dark.
Amy, is this what you saw?
Yes.
Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations,
we're ready to reveal our findings to each other
and our clients for the first time.
So, Amy, I want you to meet Heidi,
this is her sister, Petra, and Heidi's daughter, Sasha.
They all live here with Heidi's other daughter, Ciara,
- who's about 15. - Yes.
Now, here's the deal.
Heidi's already had a brush with death once.
She beat lung cancer, but now she feels
she's in a fight for her life again
by whatever's in this house.
All three of these ladies are terrified, and they feel
if you can't come up with a solution for them,
somebody's gonna get seriously hurt.
Now that Amy knows a little bit about you guys,
I'm gonna ask her to describe her walk.
When I arrived here, I got that there's something wrong
with this land and this neighborhood.
Then when I got inside, I see the word murder.
And I saw two men and a woman,
and then I heard the blast of a shotgun.
And I got something wrong with my head and my eyes,
and I got that it was part of some kind of domestic dispute.
And it seemed, like, recent, like 1980s.
This is a small town, and the only documented murder
within that time frame you're talking about happened
actually right next door in 1973.
Now, from the 1890s all the way through the 1970s,
there was a cult that owned 500 acres
right next door to your property called the Esoteric Fraternity.
By the 1970s, there was only four members left.
Now, one of them was a 79-year-old
Russian immigrant named Matthew Bosek.
August 2nd, 1973, he's working on his vegetable garden.
All of a sudden, four shots rung out.
Three hit him in the back.
One caught him in the back of the head.
the guy was hit execution style from what I can tell.
I think it was one of the other three cult members.
Yeah. Seemed like they knew each other, for sure.
They knew each other.
Cops interviewed them, but nothing came of it.
Case is still open to this day.
When I went into the bedroom upstairs,
and it's the one with just the one bed in it,
I got that the individual in there was a sensitive
and that the dead were trying desperately
to communicate to that person.
Then I walked into the kitchen,
and then I saw this person preparing dinner.
There were pots and pans clanging or moving,
and then I realized that this person
had created a P.K. entity.
This one is very advanced and unusual,
because not only is it moving objects,
it's also attacking the person who created it.
I got that this person has an enormous amount of guilt
and that a lot of things that would be happening
would be more projected onto herself.
I'm just really surprised, I have to admit.
You know, I always thought that Heidi was
more of a sensitive.
I would never guessed that you would be talking about me.
She's felt very guilty about a lot,
and I've told her she needs to let it go.
She's held a lot in.
I wasn't really there when my mom passed away,
and that was probably the biggest guilt.
Typically, people with that ability are the people
who take on everything,
take care of everybody else, repress, repress, repress.
You just described me. That's her.
And then -- Bam. That's her to a "T."
Amy says you turned this PK thing against yourself.
I want to go through some of the things you've been experiencing
like the time you were grabbed in bed.
I was just ready to fall asleep,
and I had just rolled over in bed
and felt a hand wrap around my ankle
and just jerk me.
But you were also pinned.
Right. I was in the house alone, and I woke up just feeling
these two hands on my shoulder,
you know, just holding me to the bed.
That was my worst experience.
Now, is that the P.K. doing that to her?
I think so, yeah.
So, it sounds like you're haunting yourself.
Does sound like that, doesn't it?
So, what else?
So, during my walk, I saw these two beings,
and to me, they looked like gargoyles.
They're extremely bad.
They're not just in the house.
They definitely go around the neighborhood.
They're attracted to negativity.
That's what they thrive and feed on.
One of their favorite areas is in this house,
and it's in the larger back bedroom.
I think it has three beds in it.
Right, so, that's where Heidi, Sasha, and Ciara sleep.
Okay, they love it in there -- love it.
Their motivation is to pit the living against one another.
That's what they do.
And that's what's been happening.
Yeah. Yeah.
We are argue for no reason.
We'll get in fights over the simplest thing,
and that's not us.
We're a very tight, close family,
and also with Sasha's breakdown.
Sasha, do me a favor in telling me, if you can,
about your depression and what you're going through?
I had a mental breakdown last year.
I feel like I'm losing my mind.
I can't function outside.
I feel like something's holding me here.
Was there a trigger?
My entire childhood, I was abused.
I've been holding that in my entire life.
I never talked about it.
I never cried about it.
I held it in, and I tried my hardest to ignore it.
And I feel like this house
is just holding me back from healing.
Now, Amy, there is a history of people turning
against each other on this property.
One of the original owners of your property
was a guy named Jefferson Wilcoxson.
This guy was pretty well off,
and he owned this property back in the 1880s.
By all accounts, he was a great guy when he moved here,
but the day he set foot on this land, all that changed.
He convinced a young niece of his named Amanda
to move in and take care of him.
I do have a picture of Amanda.
Now, when Amanda came
and started taking care of her uncle,
she did everything a maid would do and more
because she knew, at the end of it,
when he died, she would be a big part of his will.
And this went on for 20 years. Wow.
Well, the old man finally keels over and drops dead, right?
She got nothing.
So, Amanda sued the estate,
but she barely got any money out of the courts.
Now, these gargoyle things,
could they have influenced these people?
Yes. Yes.
This house is evil.
I know without a shadow of a doubt.
Did these things do anything else
besides pit people against each other?
Yes, they make loud noises.
I heard them laughing, grunting.
Heidi, do me a favor.
Describe the growling thing to me.
It's a weird growling -- like, this low growl,
and then it almost turns human at the end.
Now, because they were experiencing
all these noises and growling,
I brought in a pest-control expert to see
if that was the problem.
The only thing they found were very small mice droppings
but nothing that would cause these kind of noises.
The other thing I saw them was jumping up and down on the beds,
especially in the room where the three beds are.
They love that.
At very least once a week,
my bed gets shoved so hard
that I am awoken at night,
and we're not talking a little shove.
It's a big, big shove.
Wow.
Also, they do like to trick people.
I think the living would feel them rushing by.
There's, like, a wind, you know?
That must be the things that are rushing me
and trying to go right through me
and trying to scare me, and it works.
I'm scared.
It's very horrible.
It's mean.
Yeah, they are mean.
Heidi, do me a favor.
Talk about getting shoved down the stairs.
I had to go to work one morning.
I walk out the patio door, and I get hit from behind,
and I fall down three steps onto the concrete.
And would that be these things also?
Oh, yeah.
I did have an artist do a sketch of one of the situations
that I saw with that back bedroom area.
Oh, you're not going to want to see this.
Oh, hell, no.
These little [bleep] need to go. I want them gone.
When we first moved in,
Ciara would see a shadow outside the window
with glowing red eyes, and she could never fall asleep.
She'd turn over and try her hardest to fall asleep,
but the red eyes were always there.
Now, not only your sister,
but you saw a shadow figure by your bed.
Yeah.
He stands right next to my bed, and I see shadow.
I see his frame. I'm scared.
I'm very scared of him.
What the hell are they, and what do they want?
The little guys are what I call
the lowest level demon that you could encounter --
obviously, very evil.
They've always been in this area.
They like when horrible things happen.
That's something that I think would be their ultimate goal
is to create people killing other people.
We've been feeling that.
I'd rather be homeless than live here.
I want to know how we kill them.
You know, Heidi, after fighting and beating lung cancer,
you deserve some peace in your life,
and it pisses me off that you ended up in a house with demons.
Look, I don't know what Amy's gonna say,
but I personally hope you can find a way
to kick these little rat bastards out of here
so you and your family can live in peace.
So, the first thing that I would like to see you guys do
is take buckets of salt water and big sponges,
and you are going to wash every surface
that you can with this saltwater solution.
The second thing you're going to do is take sage,
and you're going to go to every single room
with this to every single doorway,
and you're gonna seal it with the sage.
How often they got to do that?
You're going to need to cleanse once a month.
You guys won't have a problem with that?
No.
For the property line, you need to go on a rock hunt.
Just pick up rocks that call to you.
When you start building your fence, so to speak,
you'll take one rock at a time,
place it on the earth and say,
"Thank you, Earth, for providing this protection for us forever."
So, what is that gonna do?
It's going to place a protective barrier,
and it's gonna keep these demons outside of the barrier.
For you, I would like you to find a certified EMDR therapist.
I'm not familiar with EMDR. What exactly is that?
So, basically, it's a form of intensive therapy for people
who have PTSD, are stuck in grief, guilt.
This will help with your P.K.
Okay.
So, the big question I have is
if they do this huge laundry list you got,
which it sounds like it's doable,
will they start feeling better? Will they stop fighting?
Oh, yeah, it's gonna be
pretty dramatic change, actually. Yeah.
I'm just happy that there is something that we can do.
If it's something that needs to get done,
then I'm willing to help,
but ultimately I would like to get out.
There's too many bad memories here.
I will not go down without a fight,
and I'm willing to fight and hard.
They're not gonna destroy my family anymore.
I can't imagine the pain this family's going through,
being tormented by demons, dead people,
and a P.K. manifestation,
but with EMDR therapy, Petra can weaken the P.K.,
and a barrier will protect them from the demons,
allowing them to lead a safe and peaceful life.